Posts by California Sunshine

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My dad is visiting this site

by ashitaka in

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...so please, end the fights.. (i wanted it to be a couplet).

my dad is looking at a whole bunch of sites, freeminds, silentlambs, etc, and i pointed him in this direction.

no more fights....daddy wants info.

California Sunshine

Ashi,
Now I know where you get your courage from.
All the best to your Dad on his journey.
Welcome Ashi's Dad!
Sunny

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For those who've left - any regrets?

by starfish422 in

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i left almost nine years ago at age 18; my only real regret was that i was good friends with a young brother and i never said goodbye to him, or even let him know that i was planning to leave (had to leave my parents' home secretly while they were at the meeting one sunday; they had such a hold over me that i could never have stood up to them and told them beforehand).

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i have no other regrets about leaving; i'm am now happily agnostic and so thankful that i found the strength to break free.. anyone have any similar regrets?

California Sunshine

************************ my parents, two brothers and their wives and kids, and my younger sister have all disowned me; it's been so long now though that I have nothing in common with them any more. It's like they passed away or something.********************************

Hi Star,
I never liked it, even as a five year old (thats when my Mom opened the door to them) I knew in my little gut there was something wrong with it. My Mom instilled such fear in me (mostly about Armageddon)
as a kid that I didn't leave for years.
I became inactive about 30 years ago. Then 20 years ago the hammer came down. When the article in the Sept 15 1981 came out my witness siblings (2 out of 4) decided they would drop me like a hot potatoe.
It was tough but I have no regrets. The last 20 years have been the happiest years of my life. Aside from a little haunting from the "End of the World" mentality which I have dispelled by finally reading "crisis of conscience". That book was the final nail in the door.
Now guess what....after all these years my JW side has been in touch through email. My JW brother started a family picture project and sent me a letter asking for family pictures which I provided to him right away. Now my JW sister has been in touch and we are going to have lunch in a couple of weeks. I've explained to her that I have no interest in being a witness and she still wants to go ahead. So star, you never know what might happen.....I don't want to raise false hopes but you never know, perhaps someday there will be a knock at the door (or an email).
Glad you started this thread.
Sunny

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? about the Lords's Prayer and JWs

by rekless in

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i was in the org.

for 35 years, and it never once occurred to me why we never taught our children the lord's pray.. our father who art in heaven hollow be thy name..... anybody have any reason for our ignoring the most perfect prayer offered up by god's son.. my fiance' ask me this tonight i can't explain it except that it would have turned into a repetitive expression like all our prayers were anyway... hell is truth seen too late.

h.g.adams

California Sunshine

*****I an serious about getting an intelligent answer. That is all.**

I don't have an answer for you. Perhaps someone with more knowledge will pick up on your thread.

Have a nice evening

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? about the Lords's Prayer and JWs

by rekless in

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i was in the org.

for 35 years, and it never once occurred to me why we never taught our children the lord's pray.. our father who art in heaven hollow be thy name..... anybody have any reason for our ignoring the most perfect prayer offered up by god's son.. my fiance' ask me this tonight i can't explain it except that it would have turned into a repetitive expression like all our prayers were anyway... hell is truth seen too late.

h.g.adams

California Sunshine

Rec
nothin intended. no need for forgiveness.
I find the whole Jw "mind control, live in fear" religion to be "hollow".
After reading Amazings story of his journey out I decided to get Ray Franz's book "Crisis of Conscience". I'm about 2/3s through. I'm now in the part about the witch hunts of the early 80s and what happened to a lot of innocent people including Ray Franz. I can only read a few pages at a time because I just want to cry. Have you read this book and how did it make you feel?
The Lords prayer is truly beautiful and moving.
Why would't anyone not want their child to know and appreciate it?

Sunny

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? about the Lords's Prayer and JWs

by rekless in

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friends

i was in the org.

for 35 years, and it never once occurred to me why we never taught our children the lord's pray.. our father who art in heaven hollow be thy name..... anybody have any reason for our ignoring the most perfect prayer offered up by god's son.. my fiance' ask me this tonight i can't explain it except that it would have turned into a repetitive expression like all our prayers were anyway... hell is truth seen too late.

h.g.adams

California Sunshine

Hi Rec,
What do you mean by "hollow"?
Sunny

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Who are the most reliable Common Sense Posters?

by Celtic in

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who are the most reliable common sense posters in this community that can be relied upon to help out others the most?

can you describe your online friends positive qualities?

how has this person or persons helped you?.

California Sunshine

I have no favorite.
We all shine in our own way.
Life has hoaned us all through our experiences and we all have our own opinions.

I've learned so much from All of you

I enjoy you all.....even YouKnow

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WTS visits Apostate Website! (continuation)

by Rado Vleugel in

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wts visits apostate website!

(continuation).

(i move this discussion to the top of this board because its already been buried under the other posts.

California Sunshine

Valis,
You are so smart.
Love your enemys (or let them think you do). It drives um crazy.
Plus, how can you get someone unless you get close to um?

Wonderful hypocrites that they are...

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WindRider needs your love and support

by Skeptic in

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windrider is seriously depressed today, dangerously so.

she really needs your support, friendship and encouragement.

she would have posted on the board herself, but her system is down.

California Sunshine

I said a prayer for you today (and I don't pray often)
And I know God (or your higher power) must have heard;
I felt the answer in my heart
Although he/she spoke not a word.

I didn't ask for wealth or fame
(I knew you wouldn't mind);
I asked for priceless treasures rare

I asked that He/she be near to you
At the start of each new day,
To grant you blessings fair,
And friends to share your way.

I asked for happiness for you
In all things great and small,
But that you'd know his/her loving care
I prayed that most of all.

*********************************************************************

Dearest Robin,
Do what you need to do to get through this tough time.
My thoughts are with you

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I need you tonight my friends,Please

by Valentine in

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this danny pearl thing has brought home memories of murder to me(my 1st husband) please,please.......just say you care right now-nothing else.......please.i'm having a real emotional night...i had no one before.............t. todays affirmation:.

the complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

California Sunshine

Dearest Tina,
I just saw your thread and and although I don't know you my heart goes out to you.

When such a tragedy as yours befalls someone some times they never get over it. Life goes on and most of the time it just sits there in the back row of that little theater in their brain. Then something happens and its thrust back up to the front row and it plays itself out in all its horror. Your heart is once again broken and all the same feelings become fresh again.

I'm so sorry if that is what happened to you.

Blessed is a person who has good friends to lean on. I can see you have many. Please count me as one.

I sincerely hope today is a better day for you.

Sunny

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